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Topic: trees - marko  [2,195 views | 43 replies]
Monday, October 01, 2007 16:22
could one of you guys have indepth info on the tree does kplc buy the trees direct from you?how much are they going for currently and what are the future projections?is it labour intensive?basically any info that could help me make a learned decision.i cant get much of it out there.

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More home truths [JkMwatha]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 20:51

Once you do your final harvest of trees,what happens to the tree stumps left? How easy (cost) is it to get rid of these? ..uproot etc.

Kenya: Nightmare As Tree Farms Fail to Make Fortune for Owners [KulaRaha]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 18:19

not such a rosy picture. Can anyone refute?

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
trees [mtaalam]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 16:02

Thanks @JKMwatha...

The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is now.
trees [JkMwatha]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 15:20

@mtaalam,....    see this Extract...

........commercial farming of biotech trees by Kenyan subsistence farmers was the Tree Biotechnology Project run by the Kenya Forestry Department,located in the Karura Forest,just outside the capital of Nairobi. The technique arrived via South Africa,where a company called Mondi Forests has been using it for the large-scale production of commercial timber.

In addition to distributing seedlings of eucalyptus hybrids,the project is adapting local indigenous tree species like Prunus africana and Melia volkensii. Whereas the naturally occurring African trees take 10-15 years to grow large enough for harvesting to begin,their tissue-culture offspring mature in 4-10 years. The lightly canopied trees can....

trees [mtaalam]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 14:44

pse bear with me if this Q has been answered in the post or sounds damn,but which breed of trees (if breed is the word)  are we talking about that will take 5yrs and is marketable?

The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is now.
trees [Chaka]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 14:25



I guess we live in different worlds!Here in Kenya,bees are free

trees [g-lo]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 13:55

@ gabriel ans chaka
 here in the Uk,a 5 comb nucleus of bees goes for 130 pounds,a hive with bees around 230 pounds or more depending on the size of the hive and a  carnolian Queen bee goes for 21 pounds.
See why I'm asking how much they cost?
trees [Gabriel]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 08:41

hi hi hihi  ...i have been following  your debate on bees and beehives...but G-lo has made me laugh off my seat.......ati "where do i buy the bees???"  hi hi hiiiiii hi hi eee one has to patient  with you G-lo......hi hihhi hiiiii  you have made my day

Bees [Chaka]
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 08:35


Buy bees??You must be kidding!!Bees will colonize the beehive on their own i.e you just wait for them to enter the hive.

As for market,there is a company called Honey Care Africa which could be buying although I do not know their rates.

trees [g-lo]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 21:51


I'd kindly like to find out from you where to buy the bees and,who are the buyers of the honey once its harvested.
Many thanks.
trees [njunge200]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 16:23


mine are similar to the modern hives only that they are bigger and thus yield more.

They are not hollow inside since they have bindings where the bees line with wax.

So there you go.......

Your Hive [Chaka]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 15:37


One last thing,I am trying to visualize your hive which I imagine is hollow inside and with a door or window to access the honey ?Is it similar to the top bar hive?

trees [njunge200]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 14:45


You just need a good carpenter and give him the specifications. Honey production is a

gold mine that people are yet to discover,actually as we speak there is a chronic

shortage of the commodity due to growing export demand. Naturally,a beehive has no

EoL (end of life),i inherited 1 beehive from my grandfather and it still yields 2 buckets !!

Get a big hive measuring atleast 4x3x1 and you will see the diffrence between the normal

 hives and the one you will have constructed,in addittion you need to apply wax on the

liners to attract the bees. If you have alot of beehives,place molasses in a container and

add water,that makes it easier for the bees to have water nearby.

Your Bee Hive [Chaka]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 13:02


Is there anyone say in or near Nrb who makes your kind of hive so that I can see how it looks like?Also after how many harvests does the hive become unusable?

trees [KulaRaha]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:55


I have already asked my shamba boy to start digging holes in the garden,and was going to go buy the saplings from Kiambu this afternoon!!! Thanks for the advise,maybe its not such a good idea to grow those things in my backyard.

But my questions were still serious: what is the level of management control one is required to put in?

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
trees [Njung'e]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:42


Licences apply in gova forests.In private farms all you need is inform your local cost except maybe those harambee receipts...

trees [mtaalam]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:13

I heard that you need some very hard and expensive to acquire licenses to fell trees and they get harder each year? Any insights?

The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is now.
trees [njunge200]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:55


My beehives are not the ordinary type they are much bigger and deeper. The ordinary

ones will yied atleast 3/4 of a bucket. I spent almost Ksh 50,000 to implement the whole

100 hives. If you have trees you can fell and saw off the wood planks the better,that will s

save you lots of cash. My beehives measure 4x2x2 thus the high yield,the environment

also matters alot since bees produce more in a condusive environment. I pay Ksh 50 for

harvesting per bucket,which is peanuts. Security is not an issue since no goon would

want to stray near a colony of about 100 beehives.......... its deadly !!

trees [Chaka]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:24


I must say you are imaginative!This seems a lot of honey per hive,are you using the ordinary langstroth hive?How much does it cost to contruct a hive and how much do you pay for labour per hive for the harvesting?

trees [Njung'e]
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:17


May i laugh at your ignorance........Pliz do not try planting trees at you backyard.......

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